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The Shima is clearly better with 20km torps than 12km ones.

In all game modes.

The explanation is such that the torpedo speed is a such parameter in the game that it matters and benefits in the speed range of 60-67km/h, like it is clearly better to have speed 65 rather than 60, but it does not matter much in range 68-90. So, the Shima's 20km torps at the maximum speed configuration are totally in a good spped range. And the 12km ones are only irrelevantly a bit faster. So the reasoning ends up that 20km good speed torps are more efficent than 12km ones, because both have almost equal good speed plus the 20km range gives clearly benefits over 12km range. In Randomz it gives huge benefits, and in competitive modes also clearly some, for example if one target is at 10km range and behind it at 13km range is one more target then Univeral Aiming can lead to damaging both of them with 20km torps while not with 12km version ones.

Such explanation, but a clear experience also says it.

I will check today evening the exact speed nu.ber in the game client, but beside numbers the feeling clearly proves what was said here.

We have debated before about that topic early years here.

The 12km option has a such weak argument that one doesn't need to choose torpedo speed items but other ones which could in overall benefit the ship more. But not really, the 20km version has radio and Adrenaline as well, no need for other features like ship speed or HP.

My main account got banned for 1 day, so i found my 2nd old account which has only T10 DD Shima. So, now i think if to purchase the DD Pampa or not. If i get banned often then a 2nd account would help a lot.

But playing DD Shima...i would prefer Pampa of course. So, i will decide if to buy Pampa or not. But having 2 accounts is a hassle. Maybe wise is to just play Shima today, and tomorrow move back to the main account and Pampa.

Not sure.

Ca 10 battles in total yesterday, 2 Trolled, 7 won, quite Competitive mood.

The community does not read MM and have no tactics, just brainwashed half-half splits. And if someone violates their such mentality, like reads MM and swims to the middle, or does Pair DDs then they refuce to play. For example a DD just stops if i try to do Pair DDs because the MM suggests it.

It has always been so, and the explanation is just the community brainwashed believes. The same like the West 3 years believed that Ukraine wins and supporting it is right. The same way Wows community believes that half-half split is right and other crap.

Beside brainwashed religious believes and behaviours there really isn't anywhere in the internet any tutorials.

Some myths and misunderstandings about the DD Pampa.

1. The most famoues myth is that it can shoot 45 torps not only 30. That is not true. The 15 torpedos load roughly 120 seconds, the torpedo reloader loads ca 4 minutes and the F button makes the 4 minutes to zero when it arrives to 3min20secs. So, playing 2 minutes gives you 30 torps readiness and not 45 torps. And at the 30 torps readiness moment the F button goes again to longer reload. Let's assume you don't use torps first 3 minutes of the game, and the F button becomes available and 30 torps ready, so when you send the 30 torps out then the torpedo reloader goes to 4 minutes and pressing F key doesn't make the reloder button to 0, it requires to be at 3min20sec. So, you can't instantly get additional torps, never ever 45 torps. When 30 torps are sent out then the torpedo loader goes to 2 minutes and torpedo ReLoader to 4 minutes, and the F button can't make any additional torps instantly there.

Even Youtube has still misleading titles with 45 number.

It is 30 torps, not 45. Can't make ever 45.

Also some forums mentioned that false info about 45.

This is the biggest misunderstanding.

2. Belief that you have forever 30 torps ability. No you don't. You have 2 times 30 torps ability and with an additional 3-points captain skill you get 3 x 30 torps. After 2-3 times of 30 torps you have only 15 torps like Shima.

3. Myth that the ship is slow. It is not. A 4-points speed skill brings it from 34km/h to ca 35.2, and that feels totally fine. A signal boosts even more, and a legendary captain a bit more after pressing the F key 2 times.
The 35.2 speed feels totally fine, no slow feeling.

3. A belief that it is not competitive. Of course it is. 30 torps can very easily make a kill, much easier than 15 or 10 torps. And that killing power is the key to victory, just 1 kill determines most competitive battle result. How you call it as non competitive then? Such 30 torps power kills very often even DDs, a very strong power.

4. A belief that the ship is too expensive. No it is not, all T10 premiums have such price.

5. A belief that the legendary captain can benefit the ship. Actually not, it just gives irrelevant amount of speed in the middle of battle where the battle outcome is already clear most times. And that speed doesn't give any practical advantages.

5. An opinion that 10.5km torpedo range is not enough and optimal is 12km. Not really. It is generally a playerskill to torp 12km radar ships, you calculate radar usages etc. Many ships do fine with less than 12km torps.

Such wrong believes.

If anyone wants Top competitive DDs then choose those which are banned usually from Clan Battles. Like Smaland for Rankedz is obviously the Top 1 DD and in general Better than other ships including Pampa.

But in Rankedz Gold league, lower Clan Battles leagues, and Randomz, the Pampa is totally effective.

The summer weather ended today, next will be chill and that is a warning for a Competitive Mood rise.
At the weekend i grinded  italian T10 DD Regolo. It is a very tricky one, can stay blind in smoke while enemies do hydro and radars, can be spotted from far, must take high risks. But sometimes everything succeeds and it is enjoyable.

Full Entertainment Mood because so damn hot outside.

Waiting +10k Steel to buy a steel ship. Probably the planes cruiser because other choices don't enrich my fleet. Could be DD Ragnat too but i already have a radar DD.

Nothing much new, business as usual.